[Hall of the Mind]
The two halves of this room have been covered--ceiling, walls, and floor--with black granite and grey marble.  Meeting seamlessly in the middle, the two kinds of stone have been carved into gently sloping, crenulated curves.  Set against the backdrop of a bas-relief carving in the grey northern wall is an altar of misty white vaalin, while an altar of snowflake obsidian lies at the foot of the granite southern wall.  You also see the Zenaxa disk.
Also here: Laeyandra, Mitheirien, Nebekk, Zenaxa, Ellistra, Aydan, Arnaster who is sitting
Obvious exits: south, up

You say, "Please have a seat."

Aydan bows to a vaalin altar.

Nebekk sits down.

You say, "Aydan is our lecturer this evening."

Zenaxa sits down.

Ellistra sits down.

Arnaster smiles at Aydan.

You say, "He is going to talk to us on Lumnis."

Nebekk snickers.

You say, "Please give him yer full attention."

Mitheirien sits down.

You say, "And hold all questions and comments until he opens the floor to them."

You nod to Aydan.

Mitheirien turns an inquisitive ear towards Aydan.

Aydan smiles.

(Iscikella moves to the back of the room.)

You sit down.

Aydan says, "Thank you for coming this evening."

Zenaxa leans forward.

Aydan says, "I figure I'll start off by giving a little information about myself, just so you know who it is doing all the talking and why."

Aydan grins.

Laeyandra turns an inquisitive ear towards Aydan.

Nebekk folds his arms over his chest.

Nebekk shifts his weight.

Aydan says, "My name is Aydan Mursilis. I am a paladin of Lumnis, though my official title within the temple would be Arbiter."

Aydan says, "I am from the city of Phannus, which is to the southeast of Solhaven and Vornavis, and a part of the Empire."

Aydan says, "As a child I was raised at a temple of Ronan, though in my early teenage years I showed more of a bend, you could say, toward Lumnis instead."

Aydan says, "It was also during this time that I was set on the path to become a paladin, instead of a priest as they had been raising me to be."

Aranrhod just arrived.

Aranrhod bows.

Aranrhod sits down.

Aranrhod gives you a friendly hug.

Aydan says, "But, I'm not here to talk the entire time about me, of course. I'm here to speak about Lumnis."

Aydan smiles.

Zenaxa folds her hands in her lap.

Aydan says, "I've thought about it quite a bit recently, and I think I'm going to go about this in two ways. First, I will speak a bit about Lumnis herself, and afterward I will speak about the Spheres of Knowledge."

Ellistra gazes fondly at Aydan.

Aydan says, "As most probably already know, Lumnis is the Arkati presiding over Wisdom and Scholarly Knowledge."

Laeyandra nods to Aydan.

Nebekk fidgets.

Aydan says, "She is the wife of Koar, though she does not take the title of Queen of the Arkati for herself."

Aydan says, "She is worshipped by many who consider their life's pursuit to be one dedicated to furthering knowledge."

Aydan says, "But unlike Fash'lo'nae, She does not advocate reckless attempts to gain knowledge, nor is She one to advocate bringing harm to others to gain that knowledge."

Aydan says, "To be more precise, it is Her belief that the means may not justify the end, in the pursuit of knowledge."

Aydan says, "Followers of Fash'lo'nae would be very quick to point out that such a belief is a limitation."

Nebekk grins evilly.

You smile at Aydan.

Aydan says, "But, there are reasons why She teaches such restraint."

You smile at Aranrhod.

Aranrhod grins at you.

Aydan says, "She is known to be one of the first of the Arkati to openly walk amongst the lesser races, even in the days of the Drakes."

Aydan says, "She and Imaera were both known to teach the lesser races much of the basic knowledge they needed to make their lives easier."

Laeyandra cocks her head at Aydan.

Aydan says, "According to legend, Koar watched Her from afar during all of this, and obviously approved of what He saw."

Aydan smiles.

Aydan says, "It's also said in legend that the care Lumnis felt toward the lesser races is what led Eorgina to take notice."

You cough.

You nod.

Aydan says, "Sowing the seeds for what would later become a bit of a conflict that would grow between them."

Ellistra furrows her brow.

Aranrhod leans forward.

Aydan says, "After the Ur-Daemons invaded our world, the Arkati were sent to the moons by the Drakes."

Aydan says, "By this point, Koar and Lumnis were already wed, but this was also when you could say an 'official' division between the Arkati of Liabo and Lornon was finally established."

Aydan says, "When the Ur-Daemons were finally destroyed and the Arkati returned to the world, this division threatened to lead to war between the pantheons."

Aydan says, "But before that finally happened, Koar was able to forge an uneasy truce between both sides."

Aydan says, "A truce which Lumnis is said to have played a major part in."

Aydan says, "You see, Lumnis takes on the role of a counselor to both Liabo and Lornon."

Laeyandra looks thoughtfully at Aydan.

Aydan says, "She is known to advise all of them, and this allowed Her to help both pantheons reach an agreement that stands to this day."

You nod to Aydan.

Aydan says, "Of course, such a thing would've required great patience."

Aydan says, "And that is something She has in great abundance."

Aydan says, "She is, first and foremost, a teacher."

Aydan says, "And even when angry, will not openly show that anger."

Aydan says, "Instead, she will be disappointed."

Aydan says, "Much like a mother who is upset with her child."

Aydan chuckles.

Aranrhod grins.

Nebekk snickers.

Aydan says, "And I think many people can attest that having your mother be disappointed in you is far worse than having her angry with you."

Aydan grins.

Zenaxa smiles at Aydan.

Laeyandra grins at Aydan.

You chuckle at Aydan.

Aranrhod smirks.

Arnaster nods.

Aydan ponders.

Aranrhod says, "I am always good."

Aydan says, "I think now I'll explain a bit about the Spheres of Knowledge, and see if I can utterly confuse you about it."

Aranrhod examines her fingernails.

Aranrhod ducks her head.

Arnaster starts chortling.

Nebekk snickers at Aydan.

Laeyandra grins at Aydan.

Aranrhod smiles at Aydan.

Zenaxa leans forward and rests her chin in her hand, a thoughtful expression on her face.

Nebekk steeples his fingers in his lap, quietly observing his surroundings.

You snicker at Aydan.

Aydan says, "The Spheres of Knowledge are often represented by five conjoined circles, and is part of the symbol that She has taken for Herself."

Aydan says, "The red sphere is of Planar knowledge."

Aydan says, "The blue sphere is of Spiritual knowledge."

Aydan says, "The black sphere is the knowledge of Chaos."

Aydan says, "The green sphere is Elemental knowledge."

Aydan says, "And finally, the white sphere is of Order."

Aydan says, "While each sphere individually corresponds to a specific form of knowledge, it must be stated that they cannot stand alone."

Aydan says, "However, many have spent their lives trying to understand how they are connected."

Aydan says, "And Lumnis is the only one known thus far to truly understand them."

Aydan says, "One of the reasons so many have difficulty understanding is because you simply cannot be told the clear answer to such a question."

Aranrhod smiles quietly to herself.

Aydan says, "And Lumnis is aware of that."

Aydan chuckles.

Aydan says, "Though I'm sure most would say it'd be so much easier if clear answers were given."

Aydan says, "But the point is that you must reach understanding on your own."

Aydan says, "In working to reach that understanding, you prepare yourself to be capable of comprehending the end result."

Aydan says, "An example would be in being told something you choose not to believe."

You cock your head at Aydan.

Aydan says, "Nobody enjoys being told their wrong. Something nearly everyone has done has been to deny the truth that you may be wrong about something."

Aydan says, "I know I'm no different."

Aydan shrugs.

Aydan says, "But it is much easier to come to terms with something if you are prepared for it beforehand."

Laeyandra ponders.

Zenaxa shifts her weight.

Aydan says, "But back to the connection between the spheres..."

Aydan says, "As I said, they cannot stand alone without the others. Lumnis' symbol always shows them connected in some manner."

Aydan says, "The first sort of connection many notice is Order and Chaos."

Aydan says, "Many people form their entire philosophies around Order and Chaos, turning it into a belief that it really stands for Good and Evil."

You cock your head.

Aydan says, "It goes beyond that, of course."

Laeyandra turns an inquisitive ear towards Aydan.

Aydan says, "Order, in its simplest form, would be that everything follows a clean process, or ought to follow such a process."

Aranrhod leans against the north wall.

Aydan says, "Discipline and dedication."

Aranrhod just pushed the hood of her cloak back off her head.

Aranrhod folds her arms over her chest.

Aydan says, "But Order would also encompass law as well."

Aydan says, "Most civilized folks would agree there needs to be laws to govern the people."

Laeyandra nods to Aydan.

Aydan asks, "But how many of them would truly wish to follow strict order?"

Aydan says, "Order on its own creates tyranny."

Aydan says, "And that happens to be the domain of Eorgina."

Aydan hums quietly to himself.

Zenaxa acts puzzled.

You chuckle at Aydan.

Nebekk steeples his fingers in his lap, quietly observing his surroundings.

Aranrhod snickers.

Aydan says, "Chaos though, is against such strict process."

Aydan asks, "But is it inherently darker or evil?"

Aydan says, "Chaos is simply the opposite of Order."

Aydan says, "And if Order is capable of being what many would consider evil and tyrannical, Chaos can be liberating."

Aydan says, "Ask Zelia about what chaos does for liberating someone."

Aydan chuckles.

Aranrhod grins at Aydan.

Aydan says, "Chaos cannot stand on its own, though, much as Order."

Aydan says, "But there are three more spheres as well."

Aydan says, "Spirit tends to encompass the intent of all things."

Aydan says, "It gives us life."

Aydan says, "But it gives our feeling toward that life as well."

Laeyandra furrows her brow.

Aydan says, "And gives the intent on how to use what is available to us. In regard to Lumnis, the knowledge that we are capable of learning."

You lean back.

Aydan says, "Now, I am not an elementalist, and will never claim to be one, so I will say my complete understanding of all things elemental in nature is nearly nothing."

Nebekk grins at Aydan.

Ellistra smiles at Aydan.

Laeyandra grins at Aydan.

Aydan says, "Elemental knowledge creates the basics for what exists in the world."

Aydan says, "Order applies that knowledge to give it form."

Aydan says, "Planar knowledge, the final sphere, holds the other four together as a sort of final rule that establishes them as final."

Aydan says, "An absolute, you could say."

You nod to Aydan.

Aydan says, "The reason why things work the way they do, and that they'll continue to work that way."

Aydan says, "Personally, that one and the Elemental spheres are completely lost to me."

Aydan chuckles.

Nebekk snickers.

Ellistra ponders.

Aydan says, "But as I've said several times already, they cannot exist alone."

Aydan says, "Something most of you have been hearing lately is how 'balance was restored' by that angel of Gosaena."

Laeyandra nods.

Arnaster chuckles.

Aydan says, "If you limit 'balance' as a conflict between Liabo and Lornon, perhaps it was."

Aydan says, "But Lumnis views balance differently."

Arnaster cocks his head at Aydan.

Aydan says, "I'm going to go into a bit of personal thought here, just so you know."

Zenaxa lets out a sigh of relief.

Zenaxa smiles.

Aydan says, "If there are five spheres of knowledge, then balance too must consist of five forces at once."

Laeyandra furrows her brow.

Aydan says, "Limiting it to good against evil, or light against dark, would be akin to taking two and ignoring the other three."

Aydan says, "But, it's my belief that instead of a balance of scales, balance itself is depicted more in Her symbol."

You nod to Aydan.

Aydan says, "The spheres are connected, and can never be closer or further to another sphere than they already are."

Laeyandra furrows her brow.

Aydan says, "They are always together, never apart."

Aydan says, "An imbalance, then, would be an absence of one, or one holding more sway over the others."

Aydan says, "I think I've probably done a pretty thorough job of confusing everyone now."

Arnaster chuckles.

Aranrhod grins at Aydan.

Nebekk snickers.

Ellistra grins at Aydan.

You grin at Aydan.

Aydan says, "Or I've skipped over something I wanted to say and can't remember it now... so.. I think I'll just give the floor over to everyone for questions."

Arnaster begins chuckling at Aydan!

You smile at Aydan.

Nebekk says, "You say that in the five spheres, there is balance. You also said that the Planar sphere is there to "govern" the other four, so to speak. I have a hard time seeing how that is balance."

Laeyandra grins at Aydan.

Nebekk removes a spiral-carved blue carmiln runestaff from in his dusky runestaff harness.
Nebekk leans on his runestaff.

Mitheirien takes a drink from her hot cocoa.

Zenaxa asks, "You mention that yer perceprion of balance wold be that th spheres arent any farther apart or closer together than they already are.... woldnt they all be equally apced in their conection with each other?"

Aydan says, "It isn't there to govern the rest as much as it exists to state that they exist that way for a reason."

Zenaxa blushes a glowing shade of red.

Zenaxa says, "Sorry."

Aydan asks, "It establishes the rules, but what point is there to have those rules if nothing else is there?"

You smile at Zenaxa.

Nebekk says, "I'm also a bit curious as to what power the Planar sphere represents; as far as I know, it belongs to the Gods alone."

Nebekk says, "Because it is supposedly off-limits to mortals, the quest for complete knowledge in Lumnis' eyes is a futile one."

Aydan says, "The sphere doesn't belong to them alone because the planes existed before the Arkati."

Aranrhod says, "The quest is not a futile one... it is a never ending one."

Aydan says, "And knowledge of the planes is NOT off-limits to mortals."

Arnaster nods to Aranrhod.

You say, "There is -- frankly -- no such thing as complete knowledge.  So aye, never-ending."

Aydan says, "Otherwise there would be no summoned demons."

Nebekk scratches his chin.

You say, "But mortals will never have complete knowledge."

Ellistra agrees with you.

Nebekk says, "Hmm...I always pictured the demons being associated with Chaos."

Ellistra says, "I would think the Arkati would fall short on that as well."

Aydan says, "Planar knowledge is more aligned with elemental knowledge, and like I've said, that goes beyond me."

You nod to Ellistra.

Nebekk nods to Aydan.

You say, "As did the Drakes."

Aranrhod nods.

Ellistra says, "It's what keeps life interesting though."

Ellistra grins.

Aydan says, "Demons may be chaotic beings, but they do exist within a form of hierarchy."

Arnaster says, "You cannot have absolute knowledge if things are always happening."

Aydan says, "Which means there is order with them."

Aydan shrugs.

Nebekk ponders.

Ellistra looks thoughtfully at Aydan.

Nebekk says, "That is a good point."

Nebekk grins at Aydan.

Nebekk leans on his runestaff.

Zenaxa asks, "So you think it is correct for lumnis to bein the Liabo sect?"

Aydan says, "But with the quest for knowledge being an unending one, that is what Lumnis is known for best in these days."

Aydan says, "She doesn't walk openly amongst mortals as it is said She did at one point."

Zenaxa says, "Do  not so."

Zenaxa blushes a glowing shade of red.

Aydan says, "But She does give that little bit of encouragement someone might need to continue their pursuit of knowledge."

Nebekk says, "I still believe that the quest associated with Lumnis is very limiting."

You chuckle at Nebekk.

Aranrhod raises an eyebrow.

Aydan says, "A whisper in the ear, a touch on the shoulder, usually just what someone needs to continue on."

You say, "It isn't."

Nebekk says, "There's no adventuring, no excitement."

Ellistra looks thoughtfully at Zenaxa.

Aranrhod says, "I can assure you it is not."

You shake your head.

Arnaster snorts.

Aranrhod chuckles.

Nebekk grins evilly.

Arnaster says, "Just because we don't risk others doesn't mean we don't risk ourselves."

Arnaster nods to Nebekk.

Speaking to Nebekk, Aydan says, "If there were no adventuring or excitement, She wouldn't have paladins."

Aydan winks at Nebekk.

Laeyandra smiles at Aydan.

Nebekk says, "Sounds perfect for Academy students, but for those who truly desire to test the limits of their being..."

Arnaster grins at Aydan.

Nebekk grins evilly.

You quietly whisper to Aydan, "Don't forget to Zenaxa's question too."

Nebekk says, "I cant picture Lumnis followers making truly great strides in the fields of knowledge."

Aydan asks, "As for Lumnis being in the Liabo pantheon?"

You laugh at Nebekk!

Aydan says, "She saw fit to align herself to Liabo."

You say, "Ye picture wrongly then."

Arnaster nods to you.

Nebekk grins at you.

Speaking to Nebekk, Ellistra says, "I think the thing you're seeing is that most of her followers make those strides privately and in a personal manner, without teling the world at large about it."

Ellistra ponders.

You say, "Remember that those of Liabo care more for mortals."

Ellistra says, "At least from my own observations."

You nod to Zenaxa.

You say, "Whereas those of Lornon do not."

Aranrhod nods to Ellistra.

Arnaster asks, "As far as the Liabo pantheon, she is married to Koar, is she not?"

Aydan nods to Arnaster.

You say, "And Lumnis definitely cares for the nortal races."

Arnaster nods to you.

You say, "Mortal races that is."

You cough.

Zenaxa says, "Howvere she counsels those of lornon.  ."

Arnaster nods.

You say, "She does not refuse counsel to any."

Arnaster says, "She freely gives knowledge to any who ask."

Aydan says, "Also remember, when She chose to join the Liabo Arkati, it was during a turbulant time."

Speaking to Ellistra, Nebekk says, "Very true. But very rarely are those strides interesting, and can make noticeable changes."

You say, "That does not mean she agrees with their philosophies."

Arnaster snorts at Nebekk.

Ellistra ponders.

Nebekk says, "There is just no growth, no evolution."

Nebekk grins.

Aydan says, "After the Ur-Daemons were defeated, She worked with the rest of the Liabo Arkati to help the lesser races that remained."

Speaking to Nebekk, Ellistra says, "That would depend on who's point of view you're going with. I'm sure they find them plenty interesting."

Ellistra grins.

Arnaster asks, "Why is it so hard to believe that if we don't put others at great risk, we cannot learn?"

Aranrhod says, "I can say that Lumnis saved me from myself... so to speak."

Speaking to Nebekk, Ellistra says, "Just because you or I might not find something of interest, it doesn't mean that the person learning and seeking doesn't."

Speaking to Arnaster, Nebekk says, "It doesnt always have to be about others. But if you're not willing to take a risk, at least for yourself, you cant go very far, and are most likely repeating the work of someone else."

You say, "There is much growth and evolution.  Lumnis, ye know, has been one to reveal many truths.  She did so regarding the Vvrael, if ye know it not."

You say, "It was not Fash'lo'nae who provided that counsel; it was Lumnis."

Arnaster nods to Nebekk.

Speaking to Zenaxa, Aydan says, "Just because you may have opposing views, such as those of Lornon and Liabo, it doesn't mean you can't talk to them."

Arnaster nods to you.

Nebekk agrees with Aydan.

Zenaxa asks, "What of the knowledge that IS created through pain of others.. and risk.  Are followers to ignore the knowledge found?"

Speaking to Nebekk, Arnaster says, "Risks are not forbidden."

Arnaster shrugs.

Ellistra grins.

Aydan says, "If that knowledge is truly detrimental to mortals, Lumnis is said to have gone out of Her way to prevent it from spreading."

Speaking to Zenaxa, Nebekk says, "That knowledge tends to be found accidently. Though i'm sure it does happen now and then amongst Lumnis followers."

Nebekk grins at Ellistra.

Aydan says, "Out of the care She still holds for mortals."

Arnaster nods to Aydan.

Nebekk winks at Ellistra.

Zenaxa ponders.

Ellistra gives Nebekk a little prod between the shoulder blades.

Arnaster says, "But if it were learned, I do not suspect any would ignore it."

Ellistra chuckles.

Nebekk grins.

Aydan asks, "How often does it turn out that someone learns something they wish they hadn't?"

Aydan asks, "And manages to unlock some great evil?"

Aydan says, "That's about a monthly occurance anymore."

Nebekk says, "Happens all the time. With each new discovery, it opens new paths of thought."

Nebekk says, "Though it doesnt always have to involve hordes of evil creatures."

Aydan says, "Things like that were hidden and locked away for a reason. When it comes to restraint, such things are the reason for it."

Nebekk snickers to himself.

Ellistra ponders.

You say, "Sometimes it is simply a question of the time to know."

Aydan asks, "And when you keep pushing yourself to such extremes, what happens when you've overextended yourself?"

Arnaster agrees with you.

You say, "Not that it will never be known."

Aydan says, "Restraint allows you to be able to enjoy the benefits of your struggle."

Speaking to Aydan, Ellistra says, "I tend to wax philosophical and find men myself."

Ellistra ducks her head.

You say, "For an Arkati, there is more time than we can measure."

You exclaim, "We tend to want things NOW!"

You chuckle.

Zenaxa agrees with you.

You say, "An Arkati can see beyond now."

Zenaxa smiles.

Ellistra winks at Aydan.

Arnaster says, "And they have the time to wait and know when the best time is."

Laeyandra ponders.

Speaking to Ellistra, Aydan says, "Usually when you're half asleep."

You nod to Arnaster.

Aydan winks at Ellistra.

Nebekk says, "The truly intelligent would never do that. Just as on the battlefield, one would never try magic which they do not have the energy for, as well as take on more opponents than they can handle."

Ellistra hugs Aydan, who wraps her in a warm embrace.

Speaking to Nebekk, Aydan asks, "Then why does it happen so often?"

You cock your head at Nebekk.

Nebekk says, "Yet, they way I see it..."

Arnaster begins chortling at Nebekk.

Ellistra says, "I don't agree with the whole "Now" approach myself."

Arnaster says, "I do it all the time, although not usually on purpose."

Speaking to Nebekk, Aydan asks, "You're not going to call everyone that makes a mistake a total idiot, are you?"

You ask, "Oh?  Then I take it ye believe the ancient Faendryl unintelligent?"

Nebekk says, "I tend to see most people follow the beaten path, when it comes to battle."

You say, "Good to know."

You chuckle.

Nebekk chuckles.

Speaking to Aydan, Nebekk says, "That's not true; Mistakes happen."

Ellistra says, "Most people do that in all aspects of life."

Ellistra nods to Nebekk.

Speaking to Ellistra, Nebekk says, "Not all."

Nebekk grins.

Ellistra says, "Of course. I said most."

Nebekk says, "For instance, you were told most likely that at the beginning of your career, rat hunting was the way to go."

Speaking to Nebekk, Aydan asks, "What's your thought on emotions?"

Aranrhod says, "Show me a perfect mortal and I will direct you to the alter of Zelia."

Arnaster begins chuckling at Aranrhod!

Ellistra grins at Aranrhod.

Nebekk says, "Some however, can choose the less traveled path, and try something like thyrils in the Landing, or the giant ants."

Ellistra gives Nebekk a rather puzzled look.

Nebekk says, "Just as the same with knowledge."

Nebekk says, "The way I see it, Lumnis followers are the rat hunters."

Nebekk grins.

Aydan says, "And then again, not everyone limits their entire life to aspects of hunting creatures."

You look at Nebekk and shake your head.

Speaking to Nebekk, Ellistra says, "Your metaphore didn't do it for me."

Ellistra ducks her head.

Nebekk chuckles.

Speaking to Nebekk, Aydan says, "And I'll have you know, I hunted in the graveyard. I never set foot in the catacombs."

Zenaxa says, "I dn consider myself a rat hunter at all."

Zenaxa shakes her head.

Ellistra says, "I sat outside here and healed."

Nebekk grins at Aydan.

Ellistra ponders.

Ellistra says, "Didn't hunt for... years."

Nebekk says, "Hmm...I guess that was a bad metaphor."

Nebekk idly scratches himself on the neck.

Nebekk coughs.

Aydan says, "Wasn't one I'd use."

Aydan grins.

Ellistra looks over at Nebekk and shakes her head.

Laeyandra grins.

Aranrhod says, "You are trying to place knowledge in a neat little package."

Ellistra says, "Not necessarily, just wasn't one I could relate to."

Zenaxa says, "I believe th path to Lumnis and knowledge is a personal quest.. people learn differently."

Ellistra grins at Nebekk.

Aranrhod says, "And it cannot be."

Aydan nods to Aranrhod.

Laeyandra nods to Zenaxa.

Speaking to Aranrhod, Aydan says, "And in turn, he'd be limiting it."

Nebekk ponders.

Aranrhod says, "Exactly."

Aydan nods to Zenaxa.

You say, "I suppose the difference is in essence, that Lumnis followers respect the spheres that is the interconnection of knowledge.  That one thing fits into another and that for something to be revealed the pieces must fit correctly."

Zenaxa says, "I believe she wishes us to consider all aspects to learn as much as we can."

Nebekk says, "I suppose it's something I placed upon myself."

Laeyandra furrows her brow.

Nebekk chuckles.

Nebekk idly scratches himself on the neck.

Ellistra ponders.

Ellistra asks, "If I may interject?"

You say, "Rather than just that one piece and not knowing the connection, running with it as if it is whole, when it is only part."

Ellistra glances at Nebekk.

Nebekk grins at Ellistra.

Ellistra says, "Back to your earlier comment and questions."

Nebekk leans on his runestaff.

Aydan says, "I apologize for not being able to simplify my thoughts to make them more understandable. They do, of course, look all picture-perfect in my mind. Everything just gets lost in the transfer."

Ellistra says, "One other thing I've noticed is that followers of Lumnis tend to seek those things that affect the emotions and "soul" if you will, whereas those of Fash lean more towards those things that stimulate the intellect alone."

Arnaster begins chuckling at Aydan!

Arnaster nods.

Nebekk ponders.

Aydan glances at Ellistra.

Ellistra glances at Aydan.

Aydan says, "There's a reason why I'm engaged to her."

Aydan points at Ellistra.

Ellistra blushes a delicate shade of pink.

Arnaster chuckles.

Speaking to Ellistra, Nebekk says, "You make a good point. Lumnis is known more for her wisdom, while my patron represents sheer intelligence."

Aranrhod smiles.

Ellistra nods to Nebekk.

Ellistra says, "I see both as having their pros and cons, but er.. I'm not the religious one here."

Ellistra grins.

You chuckle at Ellistra.

Aydan chuckles.

Arnaster asks, "Shouldn't it be noted, however, that Lumnis also holds most knowledge?"

You nod to Arnaster.

Ellistra asks, "Why?"

Ellistra asks, "Why does one have to be "better" than the other?"

Ellistra says, "That's what I don't get."

Aydan says, "I doubt She knows everything."

You say, "It's not a case of better."

Nebekk says, "Wisdom would be, perhaps, benificial to a king trying to rule his kingdom well, while the intellect would be used by a wizard trying to roast a wraith medium-well with a minor fire spell."

Nebekk snickers.

You say, "Koar himself noted that they were equal in knowledge."

Aydan says, "What She is known most for is the understanding of it."

You say, "Their approaches are different."

Arnaster says, "As it was said, nothing can know everything. That we know of."

Ellistra nods to you.

Speaking to you, Ellistra says, "But if you say, my Arkati knows more than yours, it's going to be interpreted as better."

Ellistra flashes a quick grin.

Nebekk chuckles.

You say, "Never said that myself."

Aydan says, "Or Liabo being stronger than Lornon."

You chuckle at Ellistra.

Nebekk says, "I really dont think that is the case."

Aydan says, "Or better."

Ellistra chuckles.

Aranrhod says, "They all have their place."

Aydan nods to Aranrhod.

Ellistra nods to Aranrhod.

Aydan says, "And they're there for a reason."

Arnaster says, "Similar is the fact that Kai and V'Tull battle to a stalemate."

Nebekk says, "It can never be proven, unless we can witness Lumnis and Fash'lo'nae fight in a mystical duel perhaps."

Nebekk says, "But that will never happen either."

Nebekk grins.

Speaking to Nebekk, Arnaster says, "Which would never happen."

Arnaster chuckles.

You say, "Ah, but they would be too intelligent to do that."

You wink at Nebekk.

Nebekk says, "Though I must say, I would give it all to see that."

Aranrhod grins.

Nebekk cackles!

Aydan says, "At least, He would be. Old man, and all."

Arnaster ponders.

Aydan hums quietly to himself.

You say, "There is no doubt each acknowledges the other as an equal."

Ellistra smiles at Aydan.

Nebekk nods to you.

Aydan says, "Frail bones."

Arnaster ponders.

Arnaster says, "But..."

Arnaster rubs his chin thoughtfully.

Arnaster nods.

Arnaster says, "Nevermind."

Nebekk says, "I see them as rivals."

Aydan nods to Nebekk.

Aydan says, "They are."

Aydan says, "And it has to be said too that rivals does not mean enemies, either."

You say, "They became rivals, yes, because their different approaches made them so."

Nebekk nods to Aydan.

Nebekk says, "Of course."

Speaking to Nebekk, Arnaster says, "I see them as parallels that intersect in unpleasant ways some times."

Aydan says, "Though they certainly do oppose one another quite often."

Zenaxa says, "As the spheres cannot exist without each one present and affecting..  the patheons also feed from one another,  To bring the pantheon back to Unity,, would perhaps be the physical representaion of the Sphere enacted."

You say, "But that does not mean they do not respect the other's abilities."

Aydan says, "Something else about rivals, too."

Nebekk says, "I apologize, but I have to be going now. Which is a real shame too, argh."

Nebekk sighs.

Arnaster nods.

Aydan says, "Rivals tend to have a bond closer than brotherhood."

Speaking to Aydan, Nebekk says, "Thank you for a great lecture, even if it was about Lumnis."

You say, "Well, I am about to wrap up this panel I'm afraid."

Nebekk winks at Aydan.

Speaking to Nebekk, Ellistra says, "Thanks for bringing your thoughts. It was fun."

Aydan chuckles.

Arnaster chuckles.

Aydan bows to Nebekk.

Nebekk waves.

You say, "As there is another yet tonight, which is already late."

Laeyandra turns her shoulders to the left in a long, slow stretch.

Mitheirien nods to you.

Arnaster says, "Thank you for the panel, paladin."

Speaking to Aydan, you say, "Thank ye for lecturing this eve."